Dice with a memory | … sort of [Markov dice?]

I’ve not been blogging much lately as I’ve been following the invasion of Ukraine by the genocidal regime in Russia. You can donate to a reputable aid charity to help Ukraine here (LINK).

So, to break out of the rut, I thought I’d post something RPG-ish (see the title above – edited to add the ‘Markov dice?’ tag)

Edit – Of course, other systems could be used instead of this idea (sure, there are always other ways of doing things). One benefit of this idea is that you do not need a separate supporting reference piece of paper, the idea is that the dice should be self-policing and anyway people enjoy rolling those math rocks
:O)

Background

I’ve posted quite a lot about Hex Flowers Random Tables with a inbuilt memory.

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The above is from In the Heart of the Unknown Hex Flower

The idea is that the last roll affects the result you are about to make – hence the ‘inbuilt memory’ effect. People often tell me that these are Markov Chains bound in a hexagon of hexagons framework (with some rules and stuff).

The dice memory thing you mentioned?

I recently (well last night) wondered if you could do a similar thing with a set of dice.

The idea being you a roll a die with set solutions, which then takes you to a new die, again with new set solutions. So, like a hex flower, but where you change dice, not the location on a Hex Flower. This has probably been suggested by someone before …

Let’s do an example …

Let’s do this with a set of D12s:

You can draw a D12 like this (this flattened out drawing probably has a fancy name):

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Plains die:

Plains Dice

When on plains roll this die to see what terrain comes next. The most likely result is more plains, but there is a smaller chance to get an ‘arid’ or ‘trees’ hex, or even a ‘special’ terrain hex ‘?’.

If you roll the above D12 and get: (a) plains the next hex is plains; but if you roll: (b) the next hex is an ‘arid’ hex etc.

Next turn find the die that corresponds to the present hex i.e. the one you just moved to  (e.g. in the above example: (a) = roll the plains die again; and in case of (b) = roll the arid die) and roll that die to find out what the next hex is.

Rinse and repeat.

Arid die:

Arid Dice

The arid D12 mainly returns more arid hexes, but the next hex could be plains or even hills (again there is a chance for a ‘special’ hex.

Trees die:

Trees Dice

Like above, but mainly trees are returned with this D12.

Hills die:

Hills Dice

Like above, but there is now a chance for Mountain hexes (note, there is no way to get to mountains without going via the Hills die (… well not unless you go via the ‘special die’, but that is why it is there, a bit of a wild card option, but is very much the exception).

Mountains die:

Mountain Dice

Again, mountains tend to return more mountains – e.g. like a mountain range. I’m torn between replacing ‘arid’ and ‘trees’ with more ‘mountains’ and let the ‘wild card’ take care of any trees / arid hexes. This would increase the change of getting a mountain range (which I like the idea of).

Special (confirmation die):

Special Dice

I’d use the ‘Special die’ to confirm if the next hex feature is really ‘special’ e.g. lake, meteor crater, waterfall etc., or if it is just one of the other terrain types, which might still be an unusual ‘special’ transition e.g. mountains to plains.

You could make a set of these dice for weather, or basically anything. Like Hex Flowers you could build any minigame e.g. mass combat dice set to model the ebb and flow of a battle etc.

Other dice e.g. D20?

The above is just an example (just brain storming) and not optimised. D20s would give more options, but the faces are quite small. D12 seems like a good compromise on face size and number of options.

Well that’s it, I just need a Kickstarter to make the dice!

The Pink Phantom trying it out (with his water modification)

I like this water symbol idea from TPF.

My instincts might be to keep going with water until you roll another blue symbol. So the  blue symbols toggle the water on/off.  Maybe having one blue symbol per D12. Of course, players could choose not to follow the water course, e.g. crossing over the river. In which case, the water would end (for now). Might need something for roads …

In my ItHoTU, I had a separate HF for roads, rivers, encounters and settlements etc. I’d need to think about how to do this using this dice setup.

What is a Hex Flower anyway?

It is a bit like a random table, but with an inbuilt memory. To find out more check out my Hex Flower Cookbook which is now platinum best seller on DriveThruRPG and PWYW.

Artist Marcin s needs some help

Marcin s the artist in many OSR works need of some help:

LINK: https://www.gofundme.com/f/xy5nzg-i-need-help

The details are on the GoFundMe page and I hope collectively we can give a great artist a hand up.

MsGFM

Some of the work that Marcin has been involved in:

  • Weird Frontiers
  • Face Folio
  • Carapace
  • Reaver Sword & Sorcery RPG
  • Never Swallow the Worm
  • The Malevolent Seven
  • Nest of Snakes
  • Dig 3 Graves
  • Not So Fast, Billy Ray!
  • Perdition

Advent(ure) Calendar | 24 Days of Festive Dungeoneering :: 2023

A (hopefully) fun festive idea – an Advent Calendar Dungeon (‘Advent(ure) Calendar’).

Open a door each day to see what’s behind the door.

See if you survive to Christmas. 

Simply scan the QR code on each door to see what lies behind … 

I originally wrote this in 2022, doing one day each day – like a precursor to #Dungeon23, but only for 24 days

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>> PDF <<

Idea inspired by the good works of Atelier Clandestin.

Just want the links not this infernal QR rubbish? 

  • Day 1     Giant Putrid Gravy-Spewing Undead Turkey
  • Day 2     Candy Cane Golem
  • Day 3     Wrapping Monster
  • Day 4     White Wight Mr Frosty
  • Day 5     Punch Bowl – Secret Chimney
  • Day 6     Not a creature was stirring, not even a … T-Rex mouse
  • Day 7     Advent Calendar Spider  
  • Day 8     Slay Puzzle
  • Day 9     Spinning Candy Cane Bridge
  • Day 10   Were-reindeer Cultist
  • Day 11   Brother Olf
  • Day 12   Polar Cat
  • Day 13   A Fireplace
  • Day 14   Tree Ent(hrallment) 
  • Day 15   Neurotic (not Necrotic) Gnomes
  • Day 16   Yule Log out
  • Day 17   Gnome Alone
  • Day 18   Ghost of X-Mas that Uncle Past
  • Day 19   Torpid TV & Tricky Tinsel
  • Day 20   Elevator Pitch
  • Day 21   Just Des(s)erts
  • Day 22   Ransacked
  • Day 23   Grinch Slime 
  • Day 24   Naughty or Nice

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Also, for Christmas fun – check out Grimbo Grotto | Christmas Farcical Oneshot

T’was the night before a crisp mass snowfall and nothing was stirring,
except a drunken ‘potty-mouthed’ were-reindeer high on psychedelic mushrooms

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Featuring:

'Rude Olf' by  James V West

‘Rude Olf’ – thanks to James V West  for letting me use this image – http://doomslakers.blogspot.com

 Deer  Were-reindeer cult

Deer Neurotic gnomes running a clandestine psychedelic mushroom harvesting operation

 Deer Candy Cane Golem

 Deer Gift Wrapping Monster

 Deer Mimic Presents

 Deer Giant Putrid Gravy-Spewing Undead Turkey

 Deer Tree Ent Christmas Tree hostage

Adventure Preview:

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Some reviews:

Christmas tree  1 x Blog: diplomatist2.blogspot.com/2020/12/gaming

Santa Claus  2 x DrivethruRPG: drivethrurpg.com/product_review

Deer  Also Judges Choice winner for the Reddit OSR X-mas (Santa Panic) one page dungeon contest

NPC Personality Profiles – at a glance (also includes 2000 NPC names and 2000 traits)

Update: On my Drivethrurpg page there are now playing card decks versions of these LINK1 LINK2

We all know that giving NPCs some character can be difficult, and so I wondered if a set of cards (or booklet) of personality profiles might be a helpful start.

Well I finally pulled my finger out and finished the thing (PWYW on DriveThruRPG):

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Preview: 

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a MAZE ing | mazes in RPGs; cracking the code ?

I love the idea of mazes. They captured my imagination when I first encountered the story of the minotaur

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The problem is, mazes are not very interesting in RPG / D&D like games.

Well, that is not quite true – mechanically mazes are not interesting to explore because of the language barrier; that is DM & players needing to communicate the precise spatial arrangements of the walls would be excruciating (especially if the walls are not all right angles).

Here’s a map from Against the Cult of the Reptile God – it’s not even a very big maze, but I wouldn’t want to run it in a hurry:

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Really, someone needs to make Doom-like 3rd person shooter like geomorph cards:

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Then players could explore more intuitively without the need for language – but setting up and indexing the geomorph cards to make a maze would be a bind for the DM (maybe it has been done?).

“Maze concept module”

So, anyway, back in 2017 I first wrote a ‘concept module’ about exploring labyrinths, first called “Into the Hive” and released on G+; it got redrafted in 2018, and revamped and Kickstarted in 2023 as “Carapace” (now with fancy art – linked at the bottom!) .

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Essentially, the ‘concept module’ gave 3 x ways to explore a maze:

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I won’t dwell on the exact methods used, except to say the ‘Labyrinth Move’ by Jason Cordova was the genesis of my ‘concept module’.

“Big Idea”

At the heart of these 3 x methods was MAPLESS exploration that was EPISODAL.

The ‘big idea’ was that in a finite period of exploration (whatever that time was in your game – 10 minutes, an hour etc.) the party would progress in the maze (or not), and they might have an encounter (or not) in that ‘episode’ of play.

Rinse + repeat until the party was dead or escaped the maze – simples.

Other examples

(i) Gardens of Ynn

This ‘big idea’ of mapless episodal exploration was also encapsulated in Garden of Ynn (GoY); the idea here is you go “deeper” into the maze-like garden or you retreat out.
So again, there is no map, and each move in the maze is episodal.

>> LINK <<

(ii) Labyrinth by Ben Milton

I don’t own a copy of Labyrinth by Ben Milton (perhaps I should), but his video review appears to show that exploration in his Labyrinth also follows this ‘big idea’:

>> LINK  <<

So, again, exploration is mapless and episodal. It also has an interesting Fighting Fantasy type vibe (and that also reminds me of this Mindstorm Ladder mechanic). The mechanic in this case presumes you are trying to get to the centre of the maze, so has a one-way ‘going deeper’ vibe. Also, like Carapace it has defined zones to track progress in the maze and to give each zone its own flavour.

(iii) Flux Space

I was recently listening to Ben Laurence’s podcast about Mega Dungeons (episode 5), and you should listen to this podcast too, and became aware of Nick LS Whelan’s “Flux space” idea.

>> LINK <<

Again, this method neatly obviates the use of a map to explore a maze and again embraces episodal exploration. Take a look.

Summary

Carapace, GoY, Labyrinth and Flux Space all ditch the physical maze layout as uninteresting, in all cases there is abstracted progress through a maze which is episodal.

–> Go make your own Abstracted Maze Exploration Tool today!!

Please tell me more other neat ways of exploring mazes (someone must have done a Jenga Block or deck of cards based version ?!)

Oh, get your copy of Carapace today, it comes it two stripes FREE and FANCY (cover below):

Carapace

Who knew adding/subtracting dice does not change the probability profile (well not me I guess)

UPDATE – Reddit said this better:

“I think more precisely, flipping the sign of a die doesn’t change the distribution, just the offset”

I have to admit my brain did not intuitively grasp the below when I recently stumbled across this (mathematicians wince much!!):  

Dice graph

https://anydice.com/program/30be1 

That is, 2D6+D6 (i.e. 3D6) and 2D6-D6 have the same probability shape (just shunted along). Likewise D6-2D6 and -3D6 (<– this last one I get at least).

So, that is from a design POV add/subtracting dice does not change the shape of the probability curve, just shunts it around a bit. 

Here’s and example using using a total of 6 x D6 (i.e. 6D6 and 4D6-2D6):

D6 in the house

https://anydice.com/program/30c97 

Can’t think how to use this yet, but I will remember it as part of my dice tool kit …

Shooting from the hip here – maybe in big dice pools once you exceed a certain number start using negative dice to reset the range a 1 e.g. 7D6-D6 (range 1 to 40) rather than 8D6 (range 8 to 48). 

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https://anydice.com/program/30c23 

Or maybe any system where you want a curve but with + AND – numbers – maybe in a weather system when you want + and – temperatures?

So, maybe in a tundra landscape:
Summer temperatures: 3D6
Spring temperatures: 2D6-D6
Autumn temperatures: D6-2D6 
Winter temperatures: -3D6 

Maybe not the best example, but an example at least! 

Personality Profile Cards – NPCs at a glance?

We all know that giving NPCs some character can be difficult, and so I wondered if a set of cards (or booklet) of personality profiles might be a helpful start.

Something like this:

Peronality Cards 1

These ‘Tree Charts’ group thing by biggest contribution – left to right (or top to bottom).

The idea is that the DM uses the big bars/parts to give the dominant characteristics of the NPC, but for example if the PCs ask the NPC something logical (orange bar), the DM can see how good the NPC is that. 

Obviously, layout options are possible (text, no text, numbers, legend at bottom or side, bigger set of traits etc):

Peronality Cards 2

Here’s an example with portrait cards, with Personality Traits in a vertical layout (used with my Face Folio deck of cards):

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The idea is that you can draw a random NPC portrait card and a random Personality Trait card.
I’ve messed with a few options and think these ‘Tree Charts’ can convey they biggest info first and if need be, the DM can tunnel down into these other qualities if they come up.

Here are some of the other options I experimented with:

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It needs more work, but just wanted to get a vibe … but is this something you might be interested in? 

And, yes there are other ways to do this – e.g. D100 list of personality traits etc.

Metal badges + Community Copies

To celebrate Face Folio going Gold Metal Best Seller on DriveThruRPG, I’m making available 10 community copies of Face Folio: COMMUNITY COPY CODE

FF Gold Of course, the idea is for people to use the code if they cannot afford to buy a copy (life stuff). There is no date limit on this offer, but after 10 uses the code will expire.

On a related note, a few days ago my ‘Hex Flower Cookbook’ went Platinum Metal Best Seller on DriveThruRPG. I couldn’t be more pleased because this product is Pay-What-You-Want (so in effect it is already a community version).

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When people pay for a PWYW version, it gives me validation as to what people like and helps to steer my creative efforts! For anyone that might not know, Hex Flowers are a bit like a random table, but with a ‘memory‘.

All my finished Hex Flower Stuff can be found on DriveThruRPG.
:O)

6 Day Example | ‘In the Heart of the Unknown’ Hex Crawl

I recently added a helper file to my In the Heart of the Unknown product (see below). Basically, it gives 6 days worth of randomly generated hex crawling adventure goodness.

The Table part show what was rolled on the 2D6 and what direction you would move off in on the Hex Flower. And the Hex Flowers are marked with red arrows showing those movements:

So, on Day 1: 
Weather roll = 10 – predominate weather goes from rain to sunny
Terrain roll = 10 – the terrain remains as plains
Encounter roll = 5 – a random encounter is possible (or is distant)

Day 2: 
Weather roll = 6 – predominate weather becomes more overcast
Terrain roll = 9 – the terrain becomes more woody
Encounter roll = 3 – the party have some travel related mishap

etc.

6 days of travel

In the Heart of the Unknown is PWYW, and is not too far from turning platinum best seller on DriveThruRPG:

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I was recently watching a YouTube review (<– Joke) of the ItHoTU and they mentioned that a sort of rule book would be handy to accompany this one pager. In retrospect, I think they are correct. I’m perhaps a little too overly obsessed with getting these things down on one page. Maybe when this thing does turns platinum, I do just that.

What is a Hex Flower anyway?

It is a bit like a random table, but with an inbuilt memory. To find out more check out my Hex Flower Cookbook (also very very close to being platinum best seller).

(NEW) Print on Demand x 4 | .. add them to your physical library ?

My recent Kickstarter has finished and as a result I now have 4 Print on Demand (PoD) products available. Add them to your physical library ….

PoD x 4

Two are on game theory:

Hex Flower Game Engines Cover           FGtRTDCover

Hex Flower Cookbook    and   Field Guide to Random Table Design

The other two are Hex Flower based adventure material

Carapace           ItHoO - cover

Carapace        and      In the Heart of Oz 

… Oh, and while you are at it (and paying postage), maybe throw in Face Folio?

FF Cover

Face Folio

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Me on DriveThru; at the moment I’m mainly pimping my procedural:
:: High Seas ‘Hex Crawl’ – In the Heart of the Sea,
:: Wilderness Hex Crawl – In the Heart of the Unknown,
:: Dungeon/network generator – In the Heart of the Delve & Dangerous

Perception-like checks too transparent? | add an ‘uncertainty/opacity die’ ?

Trends in modern gaming:

  • People like to roll in the open (transparency)
  • Players (not DMs) roll when possible

I can live with both of these (you probably sense a but), but I don’t like this when this is done for perception-like checks e.g. checks for traps, listen at doors etc.

The problem (for me at least) is that the player rolls and then immediately KNOWS the result.

Yes, players can (in theory) put aside their meta knowledge and act only on their ‘in game knowledge’. But, of course they can’t really, and I think the suspense is still lost in any event

Personally, for perception-like checks I think it is better to roll behind the screen and the DM to relay the apparent result to the player. Then, the player can then simply, unfettered, act on the knowledge their PC actually knows.

Below is a possible compromise …
Add an uncertainty/opacity die to the roll.

That is, ask the player to roll two dice, where one is real and one is the uncertainty/opacity die. Only the DM knows which is the real die and which is the uncertainty/opacity die.

Does that really add anything (… a bit) and aren’t we just behind the screen again (… not quite).

Scenario:
Player makes a test with one die and includes an uncertainty/opacity die, and the result is (only the DM knows if the green or orange die is the real die and let’s say the target is 10 or lower):

FandFPass & Pass – player knows and I’d say the PC also knows they passed the test, because they know they did a good job (the uncertainty/opacity die is almost a self-evaluation roll – in real life we have all done a examination/test etc. that we know we have failed and vice versa. Knowing you failed can be useful even if it is not the desired result).

PandForFandPPass & Fail – this is where it gets more interesting, the player and PC do not know if they passed the test – they are getting mixed information:

> > If the DM says “you think the chest is trapped” the player and PC can’t be certain if that is a false positive (you might want to include false positives in your game – e.g. when the test is failed badly, just don’t tell the players the criteria by which false positives arise); or can they safely assume the chest is trapped. That is, the PC thinks it is trapped, but they are not certain if they did a good job in their evaluation to be certain.

>> If the DM says “you think the chest is not trapped”, then what? The player and importantly the PC know that they did not do a good enough job to be certain.

PandPFail & Fail – The player and the PC know that they bungled the attempt and so cannot make any meaningful conclusion.

So in the top (Pass & Pass) and bottom (Fail & Fail) scenarios it is a bit like rolling in the open, but there is a reason why the player does not need to set aside in game knowledge, because the PC shares the same knowledge (well a bit anyway).

Maybe I should have gone with a Move Silently check (perhaps a better example, but I’m not re-writing this blog post, well not yet at least). In a Pass & Pass scenario the PC knows they aced it. In a Fail & Fail scenario the PC knows that they stepped on that cat’s tail it let out a massive yeolw, knocked over a glass bottle which then rolled noisily down the cobble steps. In a Pass & Fail scenario – the PC stepped on the twig snapping it, but was it heard by the guard; should they press on or not?

Just an idea for your consideration … maybe someone has already suggested this.

** EDIT: As always, I’m not the D&D police, please feel free to ignore this mechanic and not use it in your game ***

Kickstarter | Carapace -&- In the Heart of Oz

# KS Cover

>> Kickstarter LINK <<

This Kickstarter is for two (2) Hex Flower Game Engine based RPG adventures. 

Zines
The first, Carapace, offers the horrors of procedurally exploring a labyrinthine giant ant colony in search of the giant ant Queen. The second, In the Heart of the Oz is more of a gonzo sandbox setting, based in the Land of the Wizard of Oz.

Artists
The art in these match the setting material. Marcin s‘s dark fantasy style is a perfect match for Carapace, and Nate Treme‘s charming, almost whimsical style matches the Wizard of Oz setting.  

Why two zines? Well, both are great and by combining these we save you postage costs in sending these out separately.
I hope you can stop buy and take a look.

:O) 
#zinequest 
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Me on DriveThruDriveThru; at the moment I’m mainly pimping my procedural:
:: High Seas ‘Hex Crawl’ – In the Heart of the Sea,
:: Wilderness Hex Crawl – In the Heart of the Unknown,
:: Dungeon/network generator – In the Heart of the Delve & Dangerous

2022 | end

Got a few things done in 2022

2022 Stuff

Slightly amazed that I now have 48 products on DriveThruRPG with an average rating of 4.6 stars Check out my stuff here (most of it is PWYW): goblinshenchman.wordpress.com/downloads/

10 Most viewed blog topics

1   Hex Flowers
2   Excel – Widgets & Mapping
3   Field Guide to Random Table Design RPGs
4   Analogue ‘Fog of War’ hack … | jigsaw over map
5   Hit Points replaced with ‘Usage Dice’?
6   Advent(ure) Calendar | 24 Days of Festive Dungeoneering
7   Solo RPG idea | Sticky labels with QR codes
8   Wolframs’ 4 colour Theorem
9   Caterpillar Method for character Stat Generation
      …. last but not least
10 Did I invent the Depth Crawl (first)?

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2    Hex Flower Cookbook
3    In the Heart of the Unknown
4    In the Heart of the Delve & Dangerous
5    In the Heart of the Sea
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8    In the Heart of the Eternal Forest
9    Hex Flower Template
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4    In the Heart of the Delve & Dangerous
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6    Field Guide to Random Table Design in RPGs
7    Hex Flower Template
8     In the Heart of the Eternal Forest
9    Combat Morale Tracker
10  Face Folio (zine & playing cards)

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Thank you (from wherever you hail) for stopping by my blog to look at all this nonsense.

!! Happy New Year !!

Puzzle Design – is it possible to try to make a (semi) rigorous system?

TLDR – skip to the “Proforma Questions

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Kinds of Puzzles

I will start off by saying, I do not claim to be the best puzzle designer out there. I just like trying to make them.

I recently read this about puzzle dungeons in RPGs, and it made me wonder if having some structure (at least to start with) could help in making individual puzzles.

Before getting into this, I think it is important to recognise that ‘puzzles’ can be broken down into two main categories:

  • Class 1 – Pure inspiration – for example I saw an Arrhenius screw and thought that would be a neat stair case; or noticing that cannon balls float in mercury, and realizing that perhaps a large vat of mercury could be used to make a liquid bridge over a dangerous surface. But, other than a mind looking for D&D connections, there is nothing you can do to harvest pure inspiration.
  • Class 2 – Active designed – like this moon door puzzle, or secret chimney (pic below) or this rotating flooding corridor puzzle. These were constructed almost from the ground up. No raw inspiration. So, I began to think about my thought process in how I built these puzzles, and began to think – could I codify my thought process and would this be useful?

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My thought process for Class 2 Puzzle (for what it is worth):

For example, my main thought process when making the Sun/Moon door puzzle was along the lines of: (1) I want a door that is not easy to get through (2) I’ll make a puzzle that needs to be solved to open the door (3) things need to be put in the correct place on the door to solve the puzzle (4) I’ll make the puzzle be related to the position of the Sun and the phase of the Moon, so I can give visual hints related to these positions in the current sky. Hopefully this will not be too hard, too easy is way worse than too hard.

  • So, in designing: Need an objective –> a ‘stopper’ that prevents getting to the objective easily –> a reasoned solution based on information –> hints that provide this information

I then went through a process of deciding if this puzzle was fun, dobale and not a game ending problem.

  • So, in checking the puzzle: Is this an engaging problem? –> Is it logical enough and not arbitrary, not too hard or too easy? –> Is it putative to the overall game?

I will say none of this was done in a premeditative way, it just sort of rolled out, using more of less those steps, but probably in a bit of a mind jumble. This is just me trying to retro-derive my thought process.

– IF – we put aside raw inspiration (i.e. Class 1 Puzzles) as an untamable beast, is there a way of coming up with a semi-rigorous method of designing simple puzzles for RPGs?

Let’s try:

Proforma Questions

1.OBJECTIVE – What objective will the PCs want/need (it can be a simple one)
2. STOPPER – What stops/frustrates obtaining the objective in 1. easily
3. RESOLUTION – What do the PCs need to do to resolve/overcome the frustration in 2.
4. HINTS – (using the Alexandrian 3 clue rule probably makes sense here)
(a) what hint/clue is there in getting to a solution
(b) perhaps add a second hint/clue
(c) perhaps add a third hint/clue, perhaps make this more of a thematic clue

Check/Validation Questions

5.ENGAGING – Is the solution engaging/fun (or at least not a mechanical drudge) – if not change something in steps 1‑4, probably in steps 2 or 3, and work back through the steps
6. LOGIC – Does the solution require some basic logic or common-sense reasoning – if not, change something in 1-4, probably in steps 3 or 4, and work back through the steps
7. PUNITIVE – If failure to obtain the objective in 1. is overly punitive and/or prevents/ends the game from progressing in a meaningful way – then change something, probably the objective

Worked Examples

:: Let’s try it out – DOORWAY 1

  1. OBJECTIVE – get through the doorway
  2. STOPPER – the door is rusted shut
  3. RESOLUTION – oil the hinges, the oil is in another room (if the players have no oil on them)
  4. HINTS –
    (a) mention that the hinges are covered in rust
    (b) there are greasy spots below the hinges (i.e. hint: they have been oiled before)
    (c) PCs have passed through another door in the complex that could only just be opened on screeching hinges (i.e. hint: oil would have helped open the door)
  5. ENGAGING – seems OK, perhaps it’s a bit on the mundane side …
  6. LOGIC – seems OK, no massive leaps of logic needed
  7. PUNITIVE – this door just leads to a non-essential part of the complex, so it’s OK if they fail to get past the door

Overall this puzzle seems OK, the main problem is that 5. is not especially interesting, so we could have another try or tweak things a bit.

So, we could make getting the oil more interesting, like perhaps the PCs should encounter a broken engine or robot/automitant and it is dripping oil, or they find a bowl where rusted metal items are soaking in oil etc.

OR change something in 1 to 4 above to try to make it more engaging. OK, let’s try that:

:: Let’s tweak it – DOORWAY 2:

  1. OBJECTIVE – get through the METAL doorway
  2. STOPPER – it’s rusted shut
  3. RESOLUTION – get a RUST MONSTER to eat the metal door
  4. HINTS –
    (a) PCs can encounter a rust monster eating its way through a giant metal chain like a row of sausages. Perhaps change the door in 1. to a portcullis, and it is the operational chains that have rusted solid on the portcullis
    (b) there is an abandoned reel of chain left near the door, or the door is also chained shut (i.e. hint: trying to link the door, chains and rust monster together).
    (c) perhaps there are lots of chains left in this complex, and some show strange signs of being eaten by something.
  5. ENGAGING – Perhaps a more interesting solution than above – the PCs can drag the metal chain to the door leading the Rust Monster to the door/portcullis, and then the PCs can come back when the Rust Monster has eaten the door?
  6. LOGIC – think this is a pass
  7. PUNITIVE – Again, the door just leads to a non-essential part of the complex, so OK

Of course, if the PCs come up with a better way of getting past the door, all well and good, as long as there is at least one way of doing this in your puzzle (but also see also PIT 2 example were there is no bespoke solution just an open problem)

:: For the fun of it, let’s make another – DOORWAY 3

  1. OBJECTIVE – get through the doorway (sticking with a theme)
  2. STOPPER – it requires a code/puzzle solution
  3. RESOLUTION – align 7 pegs in the correct holes
  4. HINTS –
    (a) perhaps the pegs are rainbow coloured and they have to be put in rainbow coloured order e.g.: ROYGBIV
    (b) there is a room with a giant rainbow mural with open doors at each end of the rainbow
    (c) the cult members in the complex all wear rainbow coloured robes (e.g. theming rainbows)
  5. ENGAGING – think this is a pass
  6. LOGIC – yes, hopefully not too obtuse. Added hint, maybe have a prism near the door, and when light is shown through the prism the split light shows the placement of the pegs in the holes on the door
  7. PUNITIVE – again, this door just leads to a non-essential part of the complex

:: OR – DOORWAY 4

  1. OBJECTIVE – get through the doorway
  2. STOPPER – it requires a code/puzzle solution
  3. RESOLUTION – align the 4 levers in the door in a(n): up, down or middle position
  4. HINTS –
    (a) There is a room in the complex where the up, down or middle positions are indicated – maybe horizontal bars on a tapestry e.g. _ — _ perhaps there is an open door printed above the bars.
    Or a painting of the door with 4 prominent markings on it, maybe knots in the wood, or physical holes showing the position of the levers; or carpet with a door with 4 branches growing out of it, each branch position equating to the position of the 4 levers
    (b) Maybe there are some wear marks (or greasy finger marks) on the door indicating the positions the lever should be in
    (c) Maybe the PCs can find a torn cloth that show a smudge drawing showing the level positions, but disguised as musical notes (maybe too obtuse); or they find a diagram on a dead thief, the diagram showing someone blowing dust on a door (the dust sticking to the greasy marks described above)
  5. ENGAGING – seems OK, but maybe the players will get fixated on just guessing the positions; a 1 in 81 chance. To discourage simple mechanical guessing, perhaps once the levers are moved, and a failed result is obtained, the door makes a loud “gong” noise, to discourage too many random guesses. Or, stress that the levers are old and look like the will break if messed with too much
  6. LOGIC – yes, think some is required
  7. PUNITIVE – again, this door just leads to a non-essential part of the complex

:: Sticking with doors just to see – DOORWAY 5

  1. OBJECTIVE – get through the doorway
  2. STOPPER – protected by a magical barrier
  3. RESOLUTION – walk backwards through the doorway
  4. HINTS –
    (a) perhaps a close look at the dusty footprints shows a person appearing to pivot just before going throught the door i.e. weird broad semicircular heel marks
    (b) maybe there is some sort of riddle in the dungeon giving a hint e.g.: “To go back is to go forward, to go forward is the way back”
    (c) maybe there is a magical hoop in the complex where things can only pass through in one direction. Maybe the hoop is positioned to control the flow of water through a pipe? Perhaps the archway and the hoop share a copper frame.
  5. ENGAGING – think this is a pass
  6. LOGIC – think this is a pass
  7. PUNITIVE – again, this door just leads to a non-essential part of the complex

:: Let’s try one more doorway – DOORWAY 6

  1. OBJECTIVE – get through a tunnel archway
  2. STOPPER – protected by circular chopping blades
  3. RESOLUTION – turn the mechanism off
  4. HINTS –
    (a) in the complex there is a switch, perhaps a large bowl of water on a pressure plate – solution empty or move the bowl.
    Hint, the bowl has level line markings in it which indicate which trap is operational when the water is between line X and Y. A picture of the circular chopping blades are shown between those X and Y lines. Between other lines on the bowl there are other traps that turn on, or portcullis that locks (again a hint of what happens is between the lines on the bowl, e.g. a portcullis symbol or picture of a lowered draw bridge etc.)
    (b) There is a jug near the bowl it is damp but empty – hint: it has been used recently. Perhaps someone has used the jug since the PC’s last visit?
    (c) If the PCs mess with the water level in the bowl they hear loud clanking and grinding noises somewhere in the complex. A more complex puzzle might require the PCs to find the bowl and place it on the pressure plate first, but perhaps the pressure plate needs a symbol of the needed bowl on it as a hint. Maybe the bowl has a unique identifying shape e.g. like a large clam or dolphin.
  5. ENGAGING – think this is a pass
  6. LOGIC – think this is a pass
  7. PUNITIVE – again, this archway just leads to a non-essential part of the complex

:: Something new – PIT 1

  1. OBJECTIVE – get out of a deep pit or chasm
  2. STOPPER – the chasm/deep pit is rapidly filling with water, and there is little or no time to remove heavy armor
  3. RESOLUTION – float up on buoyant giant mushrooms that a growing in the base of the chasm
  4. HINTS –
    (a) PCs encounter these giant mushrooms before in the complex – if they decide to mess with the mushrooms they will discover that they are very light and strong for their size. They are easy to knock over as they have shallow footings
    (b) perhaps the PCs will cross a stream where the mushrooms were strapped together to form an improvised but buoyant bridge
    (c) the giant mushroom caps are used as seats by some of the inhabitants of the complex, or perhaps some inhabitants use the mushroom caps as coracles (boats) to move about on an underground lake.
  5. ENGAGING – think this is a pass
  6. LOGIC – think this is a pass
  7. PUNITIVE – a bit (but there are some pretty heavy hints above), but perhaps at worse the PCs might need to lose armor rather than drown.

:: Something new – PIT 2

  1. OBJECTIVE – a golden crown hovers over a wide bottomless pit, the edge/circumference of the pit is mobile, it shifts and oscillates like a writhing snake biting its own tail
  2. STOPPER – falling down the pit means death, and because the edge of the pit is always moving it is difficult to place a fixed structure like a plank across the pit.
    Hitting the crown knocks it down the pit. But, it will reappear again in the same position in about 10 minutes.
  3. RESOLUTION – in this case, the solution can be up to the players. Anything reasonable will be acceptable. Perhaps they try to hook the crown with a grappling hook on a rope?
  4. HINTS –
    (a) I think no hints are really needed here, as long as the crown is not vital to solving the mystery of the complex and reasonable solutions the players come up with should be allowed
    (b) perhaps there are some stones they can use to throw into the pit of no return
    (c) maybe they hear a rumor about the crown and pit in the tavern; or there is a
  5. ENGAGING – think this is a pass
  6. LOGIC – think this is a pass
  7. PUNITIVE – getting the crown is just a bonus

:: Let’s try it again (maybe you are not happy with the “any solution will do” concept) – PIT 3

  1. OBJECTIVE – a gold crown hovers over a wide bottomless pit, the edge/circumference of the pit is mobile, it shifts and oscillates like a writhing snake biting its own tail
  2. STOPPER – falling down the pit means death, and because the edge of the pit is always moving it is difficult to place a fixed structure like a plank across the pit.
    Hitting the crown knocks it down the pit. But, it will reappear again in about 10 minutes.
  3. RESOLUTION – the pit is in fact a living inter-dimensional creature/being and it is attracted and yet repulsed by the crown. It is doomed to circle the crown forever – spitting the crown out again if it falls into the belly of the pit. The pit is released if the crown is physically damaged or a portable hole is thrown into the pit
  4. HINTS –
    (a) PCs can find a broken portable hole, it is interdimensional, but only holds about a gallon worth of stuff. Unusually the edge of the portable hole is mobile and moves exactly like the edge of the bottomless pit. Hopefully the PCs will see a link and decide the throw the near worthless portable hole into the big interdimensional pit. Perhaps, better, the hole and the pit are connected, and when near to each other, the PCs can see the crown in the hole and reach in and grab the crown
    (b) both the portable hole and the pit share some other property, e.g. both impossibly black, have arcing sparks around their edge, or look like they contain the night sky
    (c) PCs can find a partly destroyed book about these interdimensional beings and how they are unstable if they are in the vicinity of interdimensional spaces or other interdimensional beings.
  5. ENGAGING – think this is a pass
  6. LOGIC – think this is a pass
  7. PUNITIVE – getting the crown is just a bonus

:: One more for luck – LAVA RIVER

  1. OBJECTIVE – a long dead monarch sits on a throne in decaying raiments of their office
  2. STOPPER – a river of lava bisects the chamber; the PCs are on the wrong side of the lava river. The heat is so fierce that it is nearly impossible to approach the lava river and any sort of normal bridge will be incinerated, or if metal, it will be white hot in seconds.
  3. RESOLUTION – there is a safe magical conduit over the lava stream covered by an illusion, or it is invisible
  4. HINTS
    (a) Exploration of the cavern may reveal that there is one area in the cavern that seems less hot, following the somewhat cooler area allows them to approach the lava stream, and if bold simply walk over the lava
    (b) Maybe the air around the conduit is different, less heat haze, or perhaps some (heat resistant) dark purple moss shows a path to the conduit
    (c) Maybe there is a painting (or legend about the same) showing the great monarch walking over the lava, feet wrapped in purple moss, their sword held aloft (the sword is a red herring). Maybe they find a fireplace where the heat resistant dark purple moss grows, the moss being largely unaffected by the heat of a normal fire.
  5. ENGAGING – think this is a pass
  6. LOGIC – think this is a pass
  7. PUNITIVE – not solving the puzzle only means they get less treasure

Final thoughts

So, these are just some ideas I came up with on the fly. Give it a try, maybe it will work for you (no promises).

Overall, maybe having some initial structure is a good idea. The concept you get can then be iterated until you get something you like. Perhaps throw some random tables in to help spark more ideas especially when designing a solution e.g. how the heck is a ladle going to be used to open a secret alternative doorway to the dungeon.

Again, I’m not expert, just thinking about how I’ve done this in the past.

Further Reading:

I’ll try add to this as I go along (hopefully):

Day 5 - Chimney

Did I invent the Depth Crawl (first)?

EDIT: I got some push back on Reddit about this post. Basically, it was asserted that I was all bitter about Emmy’s success. That is not the case (you can see below that I wish her well). What this post is, is a enquiry of fact. That is, did I put the idea of a “depth/zone crawl” out there before Emmy. Once you have the answer to that question, you can choose what you do with that answer. If the answer upsets you (and I really cannot see/understand why it would), then, I think you should ask yourself why that is.

I’d add that I’ve had some small measure of success in devising RPG mechanics in the past, in particular with my Hex Flower Engine, and have no desire to appropriate anyone’s ideas as my own (it’s happened enough to me).

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I was recently reading The Alexandrian blog and saw a topic close to my heart about “Depth Crawls” LINK.

The blog opens with:

“The concept of the depthcrawl was created by Emmy “Cavegirl” Allen for The Gardens of Ynn and The Stygian Library.” (emphasis added)

If you are reading this post then you already know that Emmy is the author of the well-known Depth Crawl ‘The Gardens Of Ynn’ (GoY), how it works, and that GOY has been very successful, and more power to Emmy for her success.  

But … The Alexandrian blog post got me wondering: did Emmy create the concept of a “Depth Crawl” (I prefer the term “Zone Crawl”) with GOY, and in particular, did GOY pre-date my procedural module Carapace (which also contains a Depth/Zone Crawl).

The short answer is: it seems I had put this idea of a Depth/Zone Crawl out there before Emmy did.

Here’s a brief timeline of events as I understand them:

– – – Supporting information – – –

:: G+ message notification dated 9 December 2017 with a comment from a G+’er on my procedural Zone/Depth Crawl adventure (I also have some direct messages to some other G+’ers before February 2018):

I’ve redacted the identifying information of the G+’er in the message above. Below is a link to the file I was sharing at this time (as it was a work in progress, this is the file update as of 28 December 2017):

:: Link to a Dropbox folder containing an early version of ‘Carapace’, with a file upload date of 28 December 2017

Here’s the PDF version if you want to read this early draft of Carapace, a draft that had not even included a Hex Flower option yet.

TLDR: Well here’s a extract from this 2017 document ([…] denotes section cut for brevity):

:: Link to Emmy’s blog post dated 20 February 2018 (clipping below):

– – – End of Supporting Information – – –

So, for what it is worth, I think (unless Emmy also posted the idea on G+ (or elsewhere) before me, and I have missed it), I created the idea of a Zone/Depth Crawl first. Certainly, Emmy was first to market with a finalized product. My best guess is that a ‘procedural-adventure Zeitgeist’ was circulating on G+ in late 2017, and Me and Emmy honed in on the idea of a Zone/Depth Crawl about the same time.

My inspiration for my Depth Crawl was Jason Cordova‘s “Labyrinth Move” written for Dungeon World; which is concerned with abstraction of the navigation of maze like spaces. I wanted to take Jason’s idea further and came up with the idea of a Zone/Depth Crawl.

I’m happy to be shown to be wrong on any of this. Perhaps my Google-Foo is not strong. Perhaps I’m operating under some misunderstandings. Maybe you think Carapace (or “Into the Hive” as it was titled then) is not a Depth Crawl.

Also, if you know of an earlier root or example of this Zone/Depth Crawl idea, please get in touch, I’d like to know more.

This post is not casting shade on anyone. In particular I’d like to congratulate Emmy on her creativity and success.

Carapace … what’s next?
I am working on a updated version of Carapace with Art from Marcin s (Carapace is about exploring a giant insect colony), … but the current PDF version can be found
>> HERE << and it is PWYW.

Below is a fun ‘concept sketch’ of the Giant Insect Colony from Carapace, from an email of 17 November 2017, showing the idea of Zones 1 to 4 (also, I think back then, the idea was to have a Giant Ant, Giant Wasp and Giant Spider area, each with Zones 1 to 4):


Carapace reviewed/referenced
Carapace was reviewed on the Fear of a Black Dragon podcast, and gets a mention in the ‘External & Complementary Resources’ section (page 160) of Andrew Kolb’s great work Neverland.

Clipping from a concept sketch for the new art by Marcin s:

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:: High Seas ‘Hex Crawl’ – In the Heart of the Sea,
:: Wilderness Hex Crawl – In the Heart of the Unknown,
:: Dungeon/network generator – In the Heart of the Delve & Dangerous

” R ” is for Religion [[ OSR ]]

I recently posted about what I think is common to, and so is, the OSR (link), and why your ‘faction’ of the OSR is a self-fulfilling prophesy. That is, your OSR is THE OSR because you liked that faction of the OSR, and that is the reason why you subscribed to it.

Recently I’ve been thinking more about this factionalism in the OSR. [[Edit: Reddit has pointed out that ‘Faction’ is perhaps a bit too strong – so, when I say ‘faction’ please read this to mean ‘hot spot’, ‘gravitational well’, ‘leaning’ or ‘wing’ etc.]]

I think this factionalism in the OSR is a bit like Religion.

Whatever faction of the OSR you first encountered (and the people in that faction) will heavily influence what you think the OSR is, and importantly if this was an attractive or repulsive experience.

If your first experience of the OSR was rules-as-written-TSR-era D&D – then that will probably be your (OS)R, especially if you liked it or hated it. If your first experience of religion was hyper austere Calvinism, then that will shape what you think “R” religion is. Again, this might be what you are after or you might hate it. Later discovered “R”s are clearly deluded/imposteRs. Or, of course, you might drift from one “R” to another overtime as you become more enlightened. Some “R”s may be tolerant of other “R”s, but others may be very intolerant of other the “R”s.

Anyway, if you want to hear a more expanded view on this (I was going to write the whole thing out, but I need to recover some time in my life) – please see my podcast:
https://anchor.fm/ghench/episodes/139—-R–is-for-Religion–OSR-e1rjg1u/a-a8vedcu

(yes, I have a podcast)

:O\.

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Advent(ure) Calendar | 24 Days of Festive Dungeoneering

A (hopefully) fun festive idea – an Advent Calendar Dungeon (‘Advent(ure) Calendar’).

Open a door each day to see what’s behind the door.

See if you survive to Christmas.

Simply scan the QR code on each door to see what lies behind … 

Spoiler – I’ve not written all the rooms yet!!! See if I survive to Christmas too …
:O\

AC Capture

>> PDF <<

Idea inspired by the good works of Atelier Clandestin.

Just want the links not this infernal QR rubbish? 

  • Day 1     Giant Putrid Gravy-Spewing Undead Turkey
  • Day 2     Candy Cane Golem
  • Day 3     Wrapping Monster
  • Day 4     White Wight Mr Frosty
  • Day 5     Punch Bowl – Secret Chimney
  • Day 6     Not a creature was stirring, not even a … T-Rex mouse
  • Day 7     Advent Calendar Spider  
  • Day 8     Slay Puzzle
  • Day 9     Spinning Candy Cane Bridge
  • Day 10   Were-reindeer Cultist
  • Day 11   Brother Olf
  • Day 12   Polar Cat
  • Day 13   A Fireplace
  • Day 14   Tree Ent(hrallment) 
  • Day 15   Neurotic (not Necrotic) Gnomes
  • Day 16   Yule Log out
  • Day 17   Gnome Alone
  • Day 18   Ghost of X-Mas that Uncle Past
  • Day 19   Torpid TV & Tricky Tinsel
  • Day 20   Elevator Pitch
  • Day 21   Just Des(s)erts
  • Day 22   Ransacked
  • Day 23   Grinch Slime 
  • Day 24   Naughty or Nice

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Face Folio | Deck of Cards

I recently tried an experiment, making poker cards with the Face Folio images, and I think it worked out well:

image_6487327FF Card 1

There a 50 cards, with a portrait on each side of the cards – so 100 images (plus 1 card with ‘Face Folio’ printed on both sides).

  • Useful in TTRPG gaming
  • NPCs, PC, rival PC parties etc.
  • Compact – fits neatly into any gaming/convention bag.
  • Makes a neat at-the-table tool – cut the card and find a NPC etc.

If you are interested in these, then here is a link (with some preview images to look at):

>> LINK <<

I’ll just add that these are printed in the USA, so postage outside the USA is expensive (I know, I ordered this proof set sent to the UK!).

:O)

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Onion-, Zone-, Layer-, Shell-, Down-, Pancake, Gobstopper … Crawl

I’m not very fast at bringing stuff together …

Sometimes I wonder how long things take me. For example, I recently began to think how long ago I came up with the idea of an Onion-, Zone-, Layer-, Shell-, Down-, Pancake-, Gobstopper- Crawl for use in my adventure Carapace .

Aside – Onion/Zone-crawl what?

I’m sure we are familiar with Hex-Crawls and Point-Crawls. But what is an Onion/Zone-crawl anyway?

The idea is that, like layers of an onion, you can press through the various layers/zones of the adventure, or you can backtrack out again, or stay in the same zone. The onion could have a infinite number of layers!

So, basically, there is no map. Each layer can have its own theme, or could be more dangerous, or chaotic than the last. So in practical terms what’s happening in each zone is procedurally defined. For example you could be working your way through the planes of the 9 Hells etc.

My Zone-Crawl adventure >> Carapace << (about procedurally exploring a maze like giant insect colony) was published 11 December 2018.

Hrrmmmm … I wonder how long the idea of a Onion-Crawl has been out there? For example DriveThruRPG shows that adamantane bestseller Gardens Of Ynn (the best selling example of a Zone-Crawl) was published on the 20 March 2018. So it seems this idea was circulating around 2017/2018 – was there an Onion-Crawl Zeitgeist circulating back then? Quite possibly as this was arguably at the high-tide of the G+ era.

Aside over – back to my delays

Anyway, but looking back, I noticed lurking in my email account was part of a discussion I was having about Zone-Crawls & Carapace back in the 9 December 2017 on G+ (then with a working title of ‘The Hive’ or some such):


So, I suspect I had been working on Zone-Crawls for Carapace for some months before that. My best guess was that I was toying with this idea in about September 2017. Maybe.

Shamefully, I even now have new art for Carapace from Marcin s (probably for more than 2 years now).

This, or more probably next year, I want to buff this all up and finally put this out as a hard copy adventure.

Soooooo, if we say this idea has taken from ~ September 2017 to (hopefully) ~ September 2023 – that’s only 7 or so years !!!!!!

Summary of Carapace Timeline todate:

  • First idea of using a Zone/Onion-Crawl, probably ~ Sept 2017
  • First (found) shared draft of this idea ~ Dec 2017
  • First PDF on DriveThruRPG ~ Dec 2018 (so, only about year later)
  • –> HOPEFULLY an updated print version with new art ~ 2023 !!!!

This is probably my most delayed project, my note to self, must do better.

> WHAT’S your longest yet unpublished work that you (still) hope to get out? <

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Do you even OSR ? | Response to Oct-OSR

I’ve recently been listening to lots of Oct-OSR podcast and I began to wonder why I find myself more often than not agreeing with what seem to be different/divergent statements about what the OSR is.

So, I had a bit of a think and tried to put a pin in it.

Some say the OSR is playing in a 70’s style (or at least what they think happened back then), others say the OSR must be mechanically compatible with 70s D&D, others think it is an ethos or is the DIY scene etc.

Can these all be OSR, can the OSR really be this broad?

Perhaps yes, if these are all views/movements that represent ‘dials’ in the OSR that people can dial up or down. So, when peoples say OSR is “X”, what they really mean is “X” is what is important to me in the OSR. The other stuff (that is not “X”) is not so important to me, and perhaps negligibly important. When enough people have the dials set at the same-ish position, then you begin to generate a gravitational well that draws in more adherents. This gravitational well may even become sufficiently distinct to gain a new identity like the NSR movement/wing.

So why these gravitational wells in the OSR?

I think what is important to you in the OSR is what drew you into the OSR in the first place. It is likely that what drew you into the OSR was a contact with an “OSR” (be it a person, group or product). If you liked that “first-contact-OSR” you joined the OSR. If you didn’t like that “first-contact-OSR” you left or never joined the OSR, and probably warned others off the OSR. That “first-contact-OSR” will therefore have strongly coloured your understanding of what the OSR is. Of course, the bigger the gravitational well of an OSR wing, the more likely it is to be a person’s “first-contact-OSR”, and so these wings of the OSR grow.  

So, bringing this together – what do I think the OSR is?

I think the OSR can be as broad as the various people say it is. People naturally think the OSR can’t be that broad. But, I’m not so sure. I think the OSR is like a thin membrane capturing all the OSR gravitational wells and movements derived therefrom.

To me, I now lean towards thinking that the OSR is … a non-conformist movement (like the Arts and Crafts movement) where free-thinkers do ‘RPGs’ in the way they want to, and do not simply accept what corporates like WOtC (or other main stream commercial publishers) said RPGs are, e.g. currently 5e D&D.

I think the OSR was kicked off (began to crystalize?) when people read D&D 3/4e and said: nooooooo, I’m not playing D&D that way!

But, what do I know!

:O|

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